Posted by Nancy on May 8, '08 9:13 AM for everyone

Good Morning Everyone

coffee

This morning I would like to talk politics.

Everyone is welcome to chime in. I really am looking for answers here. I deliver the USA Today paper every morning at the hotel, and I see the front page news articles that are all talking about Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama and who is leading in which state. I still don't know who is ahead overall..It does not matter to me really who one chooses to vote for. I have "Asked Geves" the campaign and I get links to web sights that want me to join or contribute money. I do not have time to watch the news often.

I feel that if I am going to vote then I should know who I am voting for. There is a rumor that says Hillary is going to legalize Marijuana...This is not something I want to have happen. Until I heard this rumor I thought I would vote for Hillary.. What I am wondering is;

1) Has anyone else heard this awful rumor about Hillary?

2) Are they the only two candidates left in the race that we have to chose from?

3) What are their platforms?

4) Who stands for what?

5) What do we get if we vote for a candidate?

Please feel free to chime in here and let me know what the country stands to lose by voting for either of the two candidates.

Much Love & Many Hugs

Nancy


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frankwpatten wrote on May 8
"Has anyone else heard this awful rumor about Hillary?" I haven't heard that one, but the Obama Campaigne would most likely be the one to spread that around. I don't think ANY of the people running are even thinking of legalizing marijuana, That would have made NATIONAL news on every paper and website there is ,if that was true.
single39female wrote on May 8
That would have made NATIONAL news on every paper and website there is ,if that was true.
Yeah I suppose you are right about that.

I just don't want to vote for the wrong one.
frankwpatten wrote on May 8
Truthfully, I think either Obama or Clinton would be fine, although I have to admit Obama right now has me irritated as he's already preparing his acceptance speech and telling everyone he's won, when its not a sure thing yet. LOL If they decide to to allow the Florida and Michigan primary votes (they were penalized due to early elections), Obama could be up a creek.
single39female wrote on May 8
I think either Obama or Clinton would be fine,
I do not feel the country is ready for a black president. I personally feel that if Obama made president then things would change so dramatically in favor for the blacks that we as white persons would become the minority and Ebonics would become the national language, and we would all have to dress with our pants hanging half below our underwear's... I am not ready for that disgusting filth.
jadedlady wrote on May 9
I don't know a lot about Obama,mainly because he hasn't been on the political front lines as long as Clinton.I can only say what my 6th sense reveals to me about Mr.Obama and Ms.Clinton. Rather than listen to what they say while they are trying to convince us to vote for them ( Because what they say is well rehearsed and they will say what ever a paticular crowd wants to hear)! That's "politics". I look at their eyes,the eyes don't lie (unless they are really good actors) In watching Mr. Obama on TV with his family and watching him answer questions,I see a man that is truely involved and concerned with the many problems facing this nation and it's citizens.I don't see him devoting any time in trying to make us change the way we dress or talk. Watching his daughters on TV the other day,I thought they were very well mannered and one could tell he has much pride and love for his family. No President can please all the people all the time. I think he will be on top of the major concerns facing us right now,like the fast approaching food shotages,rising gas pricing,and people losing their homes,unemployment.Bringing the troops home is going to take a well planned exit and he knows this.While Hillary is making promises to start bringing them hom within 60 days.Which tells me she has little or no knowledge on such matters.They can't "start" bringing them home because those that are left there will be sitting ducks! There has to be a mass evacuation to ensure they all come home alive!
While I don't know a lot about Mr.Obama,there is an abundance of reasons not to vote for Hillary!
There's not enough space to list them all so I'll just list a few.It all begins in Arkansas

The murder of Don Henry and Kevin Ives ,two teens were murdered and placed on the train tracks in Arkansas.It's believed they witnessed a drug deal ( the "mena" drug operation)
James Milam was killed May 1987. He was decapitated.Rumor is that his death is some way connected to a mena drug operation he may have witnessed.
Keith McKaskle was stabbed 113 times in November 1988 he had information on the Ives/Henry deaths.
Gregory Collins had information on the Ives/Henry deaths
He died from a gunshot wound to the face in January 1989.
Jeff Rhodes He had information on the deaths of Ives, Henry & McKaskle .His body was found in in a trash dump April 1989.
Jordan Kettleso had information on the Ives & Henry deaths
He was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup on June 25, 1990
Ron Brown,Former Chairman, DNC; Commerce Secretary
died 4/3/96
Lance Herndon 1995 Presidential appointee died August 10, 1996 under suspicious circumstances.Democratic National Committee
Political Director.
died: 9/24/92 Found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock Arkansas


Spec. Gary Rhodes Deputy Commanding General, V Corps, Crew Chief,Maj. Gen.
William Robertson Deputy Commanding General, V Corps, Europe
and Robert Kelly Deputy Commanding General, V Corps, Chief of Intelligence died: 2/23/93 - killed when the helicopter they were in crashed in Weisbaden, Germany. No cause was ever determined. - V Corps figured prominently in the US Bosnia-Serbia peacekeeping operations, along with the carrier Roosevelt.
Staff Sgt. Brian Haney,Capt. Scott Reynolds - and another Clinton bodygaurd died: 5/19/93 when their helicopter crashed in the woods near Quantico, Va. All four men had escorted Clinton on his flight to the carrier Roosevelt shortly before their deaths.
Two Months Prior Five Navy aviators,Clinton bodyguards/escorts
(names not determined) died: 3/26/93 - all died in a crash of an E-2C Hawkeye in Italy. All five men had been Clinton's escorts during Clinton's visit to the Roosevelt 2 weeks prior.

Conway LeBleu,Steve Willis,Paul Wilcher,Todd McKeehan,were Clinton bodygaurds they died: 2/28/93 "executed" by gunfire in the Waco, Texas assault on the Branch Davidians. - He and the others were examined by a "private doctor" and died from nearly identical wounds to the left temple, so-called execution style.
The list goes on and on!
Barbera Wise
Amiral Mike Boorda
Charle Wilbourne Miller
Daniel A Dutko
Dr.Ronald Rogers
Alan G.Whicher
Calvin Walraven
Dr.David Millstein
Eric Butera
Mary Mahoney
James Bunch
Judy Gibbs
Neil Moody died August 25,1996

Terrance Yeakly:Died 1996
First police officer to arrive at the Murrah Building following the OK City bombing One year later, his patrol car was found abandoned along a dirt road, the front seat covered with blood.


Stanley Heard and Steve Dickson died: 9/10/93 in a plane crash outside Dulles airport

Suzanne Coleman:Rumor?Was pregnant claiming it to be Clinton's from an affair , He was her law professor Died of a "suicide" with gunshot wound to the back of her head.

Paula Grober died: 12/9/92 she traveled extensively with Clinton from 1978 until her death...

This isn't even half of the list of deaths of people connected to the Clintons!

Clinton had a lot of suicidal friends and associates who prefer to drive a bullet in from the "back of their heads"

I'm a firm believer that husbands and wives share "pillow talk" and the secrets those two share would cause most of us to have night mares!
There's no way I would vote for her!I do not believe one word that comes out of her mouth
She also has quite a list of no no's!
I would not say such things if I hadn't done my home work.




single39female wrote on May 9
I would not say such things if I hadn't done my home work.
Wow! I am utterly shocked. My jaw is on the floor. It certainly looks as if you have done your homework. I had never heard of any of those murders that you spoke of, and I certainly had no clue that The Clinton's were involved. I am going to do my homework now, I am shocked this has not already come out in the news.

Thank you
single39female wrote on May 9
Jade, thank you so much I did some investigations and found some very informative sights that back what you say. After reading the pages I sent an email to USA TOday news paper asking why this has not coem out in the current election. My email was bloced from being sent due to dangerous content.
So I sent an email to ABC News with only web addresses attached no malitious words involved.
Here is the email I received back from ABCNews.com:

"As you can imagine, we receive thousands of messages a day from our viewers and while we appreciate you taking the time to provide feedback regarding our programming, we are not able to respond to each one directly.

We encourage you to continue to communicate with us! "

What I read in this email even though the words are not there is..."We aint gonna tell you nuttin."

What I want to know now is how do we find out about this and why it is not part of the current presidentail campaign?

Thank you so much Jade for opening my eyes.

Yes you certainly did your homework causeing me to do mine..and I was dumbfounded by what I read.
kaysimpson wrote on May 9
oh wow!!! talk about knocking my socks off!! Sounds like we have a real journalist here!! Thank you very much for posting
jadedlady wrote on May 10
http://cbn2.tripod.com/iflink.html
This website has a very long list giving full details of each murdered person on the list and their connection to Mr,you know who! It is mind blowing,"almost"every time I clicked a persons name when that info came up there were one or two more murders connected to that murder. You know 3 or 4 deaths being connected to someone could be sluffed off as mere coincidence but not this many.
jadedlady wrote on May 10
I had never heard of any of those murders that you spoke of, and I certainly had no clue that The Clinton's were involved.
There are countless people that haven't heard much "if anything" about these murders.Any news that might damage a high profile politician or one of society's elite is usually buried deep into a news paper.They know that very few people read the entire paper.Even TV and radio news,they do report on such things but they have ways of down playing it,keeping it short and sweet and is usually followed by something that has happened locally.Knowing that the instant someone hears something that may involve someone they actually know,they will forget what they just heard about the high profile elite person. Haven't you noticed how when you click on the news articles on any internet home page,when you've finished reading the article,scroll down near the bottom of that page and there's a list of "other news articles" that never get listed on the home pages. And it's those unlisted articles that will reviel the things they don't want us to know! I've made a habit of reading those articles,they don't always give a lot of detail,so I take the most prominent sentence from the article or even the subject and google it,There are usually unlimited articles with more info on the subject.

The government,the wealthy and the elite control the media. The media influences the way people see the world and, as a result, the media is a key means by which the general population come to accept, and support, "the arrangements of the social, economic, and political order." The media, in other words "are vigilant guardians protecting privilege from the threat of public understanding and participation." This process ensures that state violence is not necessary to maintain the system as "more subtle means are required: the manufacture of consent, [and] deceiving the masses with 'necessary illusions." http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/anarchism/faq/secD3.html
single39female wrote on May 10
Wow Jade. I ahve posted this on my y360 sight as well. I am going to spen some time tomorrow checking deeper into this links you posted. Thank you so very much. I am learnign so much.

Did you see what Kate wrote. You should go into frelance journalism.. You would be awesome at it.

Thank you so much for the lessons today. I look forward to reading more tomorrow.
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